Recovering from Religion

This is the official broadcast of the nonprofit organization Recovering from Religion (RfR), hosted by Emily Karp and Scott Smith, two volunteers on RfR's Hotline Project. Every aspect of leaving, questioning, or changing one's faith is explored.
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Oct 15, 2017

We interview G.R. Pafumi, author of Clergy Sex Abuse in the Catholic Church and founder of And Emily highlights eleven upcoming secular events.

Oct 1, 2017

We interview Lloyd Evans, author of The Reluctant Apostate: Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses Comes at a Price. Alexandra James explains her resource for ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses And we have four powerful listeners’ stories.

Sep 17, 2017

We interview David G. McAfee, author of No Sacred Cows: Investigating Myths, Cults, and the Supernatural. We pass along secular hurricane disaster recovery updates from Foundation Beyond Belief and Humanists of Houston. And we have a listener’s story.

Sep 3, 2017

We interview Rebecca Vitsmun, Humanist Disaster Recovery Coordinator with the Foundation Beyond Belief; and Debbie Williams, President of Humanists of Houston. We also have a listener’s story from a mother and her daughter who both volunteered on a Humanist Disaster Recovery Team in South Carolina.

Aug 20, 2017

We interview for the second time Dan Barker, author, speaker and co-president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation - this time specifically about his book, Life Driven Purpose: How an Atheist Finds Meaning. Emily highlights one of the RfR resource pages. And we have a listener's story from a previous show guest!

Aug 6, 2017

We interview Guy P. Harrison, award-winning author of six highly acclaimed books that promote critical thinking.  Emily highlights the resource of the month. And we have a listener’s story.

Jul 23, 2017

We interview John Follis, writer, director and producer of the award winning film Leaving God.  Emily highlights four secular events. And we have a listener’s story.

Jul 9, 2017

We interview Adam Wadi, Author of Atheism For Muslims: A Guide to Questioning Islam, Religion and God for a Better Future.  Three listeners tell their stories about Islam.  And Emily highlights a resource.

Jun 25, 2017

We interview Dr. Caleb Lack, Associate Professor of Psychology, Licensed Clinical Psychologist and Director of the Secular Therapy Project.  Emily highlights three resources.  And Scott announces the Justin Bieber project.

Jun 11, 2017

We interviewed Dr. Eugenie Scott, Author of Evolution vs. Creationism: An Introduction.  We also interviewed James Krupa, Biology professor at the University of Kentucky.  We tell you about the resource of the month.  And we have three listeners’ stories.

May 28, 2017

We interviewed Greta Christina, Author of Coming Out Atheist How to Do It, How to Help Each Other, and Why.  We also interviewed Gayle Jordan, Executive Director of Recovering from Religion. We read an email from a listener.   And we have three listeners’ stories.

May 14, 2017

We interviewed Drew Bekius, President of The Clergy Project & Author of The Rise and Fall of Faith.  We have two listeners’ stories.  We share some social media comments and an iTunes review.  And we highlight four upcoming secular events.

Apr 30, 2017

We interviewed David Fitzgerald Author of The Complete Heretic's Guide to Western Religion Book One: The Mormons.  We have five listeners’ stories.  We highlight three ex-Mormon resources.  And we celebrate the one year anniversary of the podcast.

Apr 16, 2017

We interview atheist Singer-Songwriter Shelley Segal, and we highlight three upcoming secular events.

Apr 2, 2017

We interviewed Elaine Stehel, Certified Humanist Minister and Vice President of Humanists of Utah, who talked to us about how humans and other animals can be Good Without God. We also have personal stories from Karen Jungwirth and Nathan. Scott reads some emails from our listeners. Finally, Emily highlights the American Ethical Union as our resource of the month.

Mar 19, 2017

Emily interviewed Dale McGowan, author of In Faith and In Doubt: How Religious Believers and Nonbelievers Can Create Strong Marriages and Loving Families. Scott interviewed Street Epistemology proponent Anthony Magnabosco. We also have a listener’s story from Callie Wright and we highlight four upcoming secular events.

Mar 5, 2017

On this episode, we discuss death from a secular perspective.  We have two interviews. The first is with Margaret Downey, President of the Freethought Society. She discusses doctor assisted suicide/euthanasia, secular humanist chaplains, and abuse in assisted living communities. Then we talk with Rebecca Hensler, founder of Grief Beyond Belief. We also have four listeners' stories and a resource of the month. 

Feb 19, 2017

We have 2 interviews, first with Dr. Caleb Lack, Director of the Secular Therapy Project, then with Dr. Marlene Winell, Director of Journey Free - Recovery from Harmful Religion & author of Leaving the Fold. Counselor Becky Fox shares her insight on spiritual/religious abuse, and per usual we have listeners' stories, this time about psychological harm from religion. We also cover upcoming secular/atheist/skeptic conferences and conventions.

Feb 5, 2017

Our longest episode yet! Two interviews: author Jefferson Hawkins, who is a former Scientologist, and then "Indy Scientology" podcast host Andy Nolch. We have two listeners who shared their experiences in the Church of Scientology. Finally we tell you about two great websites for people leaving Scientology.

Jan 22, 2017

We interviewed David G. McAfee, author of The Belief Book and The Book of Gods. Scott interviewed Amanda Metskas, former National executive director of Camp Quest. Four listeners explain their challenges being secular parents.  Upcoming secular events described this time include Darwin Day festivities & NaNoCon!

Jan 6, 2017

In this episode, we discuss why some women leave their faith and others stay in their faith.  We interviewed Karen Garst, author of the book Women Beyond Belief: Discovering Life Without Religion.   A listener tells her powerful story that led her away from her faith.  And you'll learn about a great new app called Atheos.

Dec 2, 2016

In this episode, we discuss how nonbelievers handle the Christmas season. We interview 5 of today’s most popular secular podcasters. You’ll learn about a unique way to reduce stress during the holidays & hear from a former Jehovah's Witness.

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Nov 4, 2016

In this episode, we discuss everything humanism. We interview Rebecca Hale, President of the American Humanist Association. You’ll learn about what “7 Cups of Tea” has to offer as a resource and hear two important stories about humanism.

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Oct 7, 2016

In this episode, we discuss the ways in which religions such as Christianity and Islam teach shame and guilt around human sexuality. Dr. Darrel Ray, the President of the Board of Directors of Recovering from Religion itself, joins us to help us cover topics ranging from masturbation to polyamory. LGBTQ topics are also explored.

Sep 2, 2016

Co-presidents of the Freedom from Religion Foundation Dan Barker and his wife Annie Laurie Gaylor discuss the ins and outs of FFRF as well as an in-depth analysis of the separation of church and state.

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